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August 12, 2007

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Oh Polly, I could not agree with you more.

As an avid traveler and lover of 'interesting places', a germaphobe who has even used 'stand-over-toilets' in the pursuit of cultural understanding, this post could, potentially, make me unhappy. But really, i completely agree with you.

my friend from school recently got married and fully expected me to go to his wedding even though it was in Mumbai, on the 1st of July. No amount of hand sanitizer and/or Charmin-to-go toilet paper could make me brave that. Call me spoiled, but rat infested streets, 120 degree weather, holy cow piles on the sidewalk, water that will make me puke, food that is not safe to eat, stinking garbage all over the place and gazillions of people with quite different views of personal hygiene and personal space than mine - well that's just too damn much for me.

Some people may think that over-eager street urchins and heaps of garbage are ‘authentic’. I think it’s called ‘poverty’ and poverty is not a tourist attraction.

Wanting to brush your teeth with tap water without getting mortally ill doesn’t make you an Ugly American. An Ugly American is someone who arrives at the Bolshoy Theater in jeans and sneakers with plastic shopping bags.

I definitely have no desire to ever return to Mexico. I really haven't been out of the country enough to draw any other comparisons. I am sure I am not only an Ugly American but an Ugly Traveler. To keep my mood swings under control it is very important that I keep my body on a regular schedule for sleep, eating and exercise. I have to be careful on vacation to not over-do it or I become a raging bitch.

Being a chef, I have worked with Mexican (illegal) immigrants for years. Some of them are the most amazing people I've ever met. That experience has definitely changed my views on immigration laws in the US. It has also made me so much more aware of how fortunate I am to have the life I do in the country I do.

My (Mexican) friend Rigo used to tell me the only places in Mexico that you should ever visit are the little towns that no one would know about unless they were from there. He told me about his first trip to Mexico City and how scared he was when he got there. He called it the dirtiest place he had ever seen. "Take me back to my little town" he said.

If I ever visit Mexico, which I hope I do, it will only be because one of my friends has invited me to stay in their "little" town. When the Mexicans tell me that Mexico is a dirty nasty place, I'm going to take their word for it.

Hey, Polly - have you seen Raising Victor Vargas?

Liza, thanks for the support!

Diosa, I have the same vacation limitations as you. I finally came to the conclusion that I will never see Europe unless I can teleport there and have a babelfish implanted in my ear. I will also never see Hawaii for the same flying over the ocean for way to long reason, although my Hawaiʻi Pidgin English is actually quite good.

Liz, I have not seen Raising Victor Vargas but I will add it to my netflix list if you say it is good.

It's a really cute movie. I love the grandma character. I'd love to hear what you think about it.

i just read this post again... and i'm cracking up about: I equate ugly Americans to those people who just talk louder as if deaf and no English were the same thing. HAHA!! that never ceases to amaze me. every time i'm back in mother russia i see american tourists getting louder and louder when russian museum guards (babushkas in bonnets) don't understand them... hello people!! they're not deaf! they just happen to speak RUSSIAN!!!! eeeh-gad!

I had to google babelfish. Never heard of that before. Absolutely ingenious.

Liza, I would travel with you to mother russia, maybe. If you promised to be in charge and be good at it.

Diosa, babelfish is also from Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy and a "real" pretend fish. It's yellow.

I think my travel bug and your lack thereof is one of the things that's most different about us. I have a tendency to go back to the same places, but that's just because I'm still paying off my credit card debt and those places are cheap/free. If I had a little more discretionary income, I'd be all over the place.

Here's my take. (And let me give you the perspective from whence this take comes: I grew up in one of the poorest parts of the United States, where I had friends who had no phone or running water; I was a Spanish major in college and traveled all over Mexico with another friend back in my college days.)

Yes, Mexico is less developed than the United States in general. They definitely have security issues--it's gotten worse since I was there. It's also true that, outside of Tijuana and Juarez (both border towns, by the way), Mexico has some beautiful and pleasant places to go. I loved Mexico and had overwhelmingly positive experiences with the people there.

Yes, there is poverty. Personally, I'm a little uncomfortable talking about how icky it is to be touched by kids peddling chicle (gum). I respect your honesty, though, Polly. I'd much rather focus on what a sucky life that must be for them and their parents. I dread even imagining the things that happen to kids living a life like that. And this is strictly how I personally look at this sort of thing--it doesn't make me think I'm right or better. Probably just hightlights my bleeding heart liberal tendencies to your libertarian tendencies.

(This post is already too long, but a short story: my mom had a student years ago, kindergarten I think, who came to school every day in the same clothes. They were dirty, and she was hungry. My mom would take her home--we lived right by the school--every day at lunch or recess and wash her clothes, give her a bath, and feed her a meal. She said she cried about it every day. So, when you talk about dirty street urchins and how you don't like them touching you, I think about how those urchins are someone's kids and there may be no one to make sure they eat something every day or get a bath from time to time. And Polly, I know you know that--you're the one who always says, "We should treat every kid like she's irreplaceable, because she is." You're defending bitsy, and I love that about you.)

As to the ex-pats sitting in the U.S. and taking offense at comments about Mexico, I'm not sure I agree that they don't have that right. The presumption here seems to be that they left for the comfy U.S. to escape Mexico because they didn't want to be there, but we don't know why they're here, and being here doesn't preclude them from having an opinion about what's said about their home country. I think the poster at bitsy's site needed to take a chiller and come at it in a different way, if her intention was to actually have anyone hear her out. Just my opinion.

Love bitsy. Love you, Polly. Love all around.

Dol, as always a perfectly well-reasoned and loving comment from your corner. I love to you, too, and I am always glad when you add a little balance to my Pollycentric worldview.

McMansion ladies first: Of course these ladies might be poor, but it makes it easier to lob back at them if I assume they live in my neighborhood. But good point and well taken. As for the meat of it, I don't think I took offense so much to them defending their home country as I did to the inferrence (mine) that they believe people should overlook the poverty and physical conditions and focus on the pretty.

As for the kids, I agree with you completely. That is exactly how I feel about theoretical children forced to hawk chiclet but to trumpet that as my position would be a complete whitewash of my actual feelings upon arrival in Tijuana.

From here, they seem harmless, if a little overeager and germy. From there, they seemed like a mob.

Dol, such a great perspective. I have to say I don't even really remember the kids, it's just the men making me fear for my life that's etched in my memory. That probably makes me self-centered or snooty but there it is. I don't remember how clean or dirty it was. I don't remember if I had to pee or not. I don't remember if we ate or drank anything. I don't remember how hot or cool it was. I just remember the two of you enjoying how uncomfortable I was receiving all the lecherous looks and threatening to leave me there.

Diosa, it was dirty; you were too scared to pee; we neither ate nor drank; it was pretty hot but that didn't have any affect on your decision to layer. And, yes, we are bad people.

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