Today's Fortune:

  • You'll find loose change in your pocket. ~ Peking Noodle Co.

Not-a-Post

  • Our next book is "Foreskin's Lament" by Shalom Auslander. Discussion, to be lead by Alice, will be held on Thursday, April 22nd.

Do Step in Time

« Twilight | Main | New Moon »

July 02, 2008

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d8341c705753ef00e5539bc04a8834

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Nerds:Who They Are and Why We Need More of Them:

Comments

this hits particularly close to home...

My eldest is gifted, seriously gifted. If we were homeschooling we'd be doing a 5th-6th grade curriculum, at least. He starts grade 1 in September and is amongst the youngest with an April birthday.

We are very conscious of making sure he feels included and fits in but also that he embraces his smarts and makes the most of the brain he's been given.

For the time being its easy, but I fully expect more difficulty as time progresses.

That said, he's already in karate because while I like that it teaches discipline and self respect, lets be frank, wouldn't it be great to be able to kick the ass of anyone who tries to mess with you? ;)

J, your kid sounds like my favorite kind! I adore the smart ones.

My mom was the kind of gifted that got you skipped ahead a couple of grades (they don't do that so much anymore, because it is socially so hard on kids). I think it was a lonely childhood for her, in part because she was so smart and then also socially not in the same place as the kids in her class. Her parents weren't sensitive to this like you are.

Polly, does the book talk about friendships and how they shape social structures like geekdom/nerddom? I was definitely a geek (maybe a little nerdy, too), but it was friendships with "cooler" people that gave me some of The Cool, too, without requiring me to give up being smart and bookish.

And I married a former orchestra geek. I loves me some geeks.

Dol, actually, the book does talk about a lot about social structure, and how some smart kids are able to avoid nerd and geek labels (contact lenses and decent jeans) while others are not. I think you'd like it.

Dol, you're welcome to babysit in PA any time. It can be exhausting keeping up with and trying to challenge him.

*yawn*

Polly,
I have a semi well rounded geek in training. He loves all things Transformers, Dinosaurs and anything mechanical, is smart as a whip and loves sports and plays the piano very nicely. I have a 15 year nephew geek who has managed to avoid being labeled a geek, because the areas he excels in are standardized testing and music, he just about fails everything else. His music teacher has labeled him a Gifted Underachiever ...who knew there was a label for what we thought was lazy and arrogant? My younger son is an Asperger smarty pants, who unfortunately, realizes he is different, but blissfully, usually doesn't care. It's fun with a lot of smarties, but constant worry about middle school for my boys, or as I have heard it called, "The Labyrinth of Hell". They both take Tae Kwon Do, for the self discipline and self preservation skills. I am poised and ready to kill anyone who dares make fun of them, but try to stand back as much as I can at the same time. Perhaps I need to read this book.

Darling Lissful, I would strongly recommend this book to you. I would also give your 15 year-old nephew the MBTI because type can really give you an angle on how to motivate teenagers.

My mom was another one of those who was very gifted, sent to a gifted school, etc. I imagine it must have been difficult for her, and I know it's the reason she pulled me out of school in sixth grade. I don't remember myself or my other friends who were in the gifted program ever getting ridiculed for it; if anything, we were cooler for it. I guess we were probably just reaching the turning point when I left school. I know for sure my mother thinks she was doing me a solid by not exposing me to The Labyrinth of Hell, and things like this book make me think maybe she was right. I guess I'll see how it goes for my own kids to know for sure if she was right.

Hi,

I just wanted to say that I think your writing is amazing and my gut hurts from laughing! You have a new fan in me and I look forward to reading more posts.

Model, I guess I'm not totally clear in my point: being smart or even in a gifted program does not necessarily get a kid picked on. Kids of the same IQ and in the same program will single out other kids as "nerds" for reasons that go beyond intelligence or self-application. But because intelligence is an earmark of the nerd, some kids will dumb themselves down if they feel they are in any danger of being uncool enough to pull off endearing themselves to an adult.

Matthew, you crack me up. Open admiration is always appreciated, encouraged even. Actually, I'm thinking of making it mandatory.

Nice post. I really think we just need to do away with the idea of a traditional high school. It's torture for just about everyone - teachers, parents and students. Except those few lucky enough to be the prom queen or the quarterback. I think we should graduate kids from certificate programs by sixteen if that's what they want. Put them in apprenticeships or internship.

Polly, I probably would have gotten your point better if I had ever gone through or witnessed that sort of thing. When I was that age, I guess my friends would have fallen under your "geek" heading. Very smart/intellectual and proud of it. But we also got into a lot of trouble and were very angsty/gothy. And we thought we were SO cool.

It's interesting how much anti-intellectualism there is in this country. I see a bit of that in my classes. There is one self-professed redneck in particular in my math class who springs to mind (an SP, no doubt) who, when faced with something he doesn't understand, will loudly make a joke about math being stupid and "what were they smoking when they came up with this crap.." Drives me nuts.

The comments to this entry are closed.